Not Saussure

September 27, 2006

Replace God Save the Queen with the Ode To Joy?

Filed under: hubris, Icons, UK — notsaussure @ 2:19 pm

Phillippa Ibbotson, in the Groan’s Comment is Free, has a reprise, or it may be a rondo, or … anyway, she’s off on her hobby horse again and has virtually reproduced an article from the previous month about how British classical concerts are not nearly internationalist enough.

Recalling how

Repressive regimes have been well aware of the power of music. Witness its banning by the Taliban, its minimal, prescriptive use by Mao Zedong in China, and in Stalin’s Russia. The potential of music to energise and exhilarate a crowd is dangerous to dictatorships, the arousal of emotions being counterproductive to their will to suppress. Of course this same musical power can also be used to their advantage. Take the careful selection of Wagner’s Meistersinger for performance at Nuremberg rallies.

she suggests that,

in today’s world of burgeoning multiculturalism and media sophistication, it is necessary to question the place of such nationalistic music-making; and in so doing to risk accusations of political correctness and imposing manipulative leftwing agendas. For, in Britain at least, there is a disturbing trend for live classical concerts to be run as patriotically themed spectacles.

Consequently, we should replace God Save the Queen with Beethoven’s Ode to Joy, along with Schiller’s original words, which will have the added advantage — I swear I’m not making this up — of somehow concentrating our minds wonderfully on global warming.

I’m not at all sure she can have read the words to Schiller’s Ode To Joy; I don’t know about anyone else, but I’d feel a bit of a Charlie singing

Be embraced, Millions!
This kiss for all the world!
Brothers!, above the starry canopy
A loving father must dwell.

Can you sense the Creator, world?
Seek him above the starry canopy.
Above the stars He must dwell.

and I shudder to think what Richard Dawkins would make of it.

I don’t really know what we could use; Jerusalem is sometimes suggested, but might cause problems for Irish, Welsh and Scots rugby fans. Besides, my aged mother once raised the very sound objection that on her visit to Jerusalem she found the place hot, noisy, dirty and full of demented Jews and Arabs who all wanted to kill each other — ‘Not the sort of place we really want here in England, dear’.

The whole thing reminds me rather of the BBC’s proposal to replace the late Fritz Spiegel’s Radio 4 theme — now sadly gone, of course — with a similar arrangement reflecting Britain’s place in Europe, broadcast early in April this year as I recall.


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  1. […] Commenting on the same article Not Saussure slam dunks Ode to Joy, and instead suggests Jerusalem: I don’t really know what we could use; Jerusalem is sometimes suggested, but might cause problems for Irish, Welsh and Scots rugby fans. Besides, my aged mother once raised the very sound objection that on her visit to Jerusalem she found the place hot, noisy, dirty and full of demented Jews and Arabs who all wanted to kill each other — ‘Not the sort of place we really want here in England, dear’. […]

    Pingback by Anthem 4 England - News and Opinion — September 28, 2006 @ 12:49 am

  2. When many people have no loyalty or connection with the Queen, we shouldn’t have God Save The Queen as our national anthem, I’m proud to be English but I don’t feel comfortable singing our national anthem because it doesn’t represent the feelings of most of us. You can never beat the mighty Queen for unique rock music that will never die. Anyone interested in Queen should visit our website at http://www.thebrianmoles.com its free to join, the majority of our members are Queen fans but not all, so you don’t have to be a Queen fan to join. We aim to be a community where people can meet and make new friends, then throughout the year we hold events to raise money for charity (and to have a good time) and regular fun competitions to win some fantastic prizes. Take a look at our new website today.

    Comment by Neil — January 11, 2007 @ 12:33 pm


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